secretary kerry was there yesterday meeting the foreign minister of the ukraine today. we need to put together a strong and substantial economic package and we made progress on that. the european union announced today a $15 billion package of loan, grants, and celts. we need to push forward with the plans to have the elections in ukraine this may. we need to continue the effort to try to de-escalate and if possible put together an agreed-upon -- out here. we need to reassure our nato allies and need to put in place sanctions and clear costs to the russians for this activity should it's ka late. there's a lot of talk about how we don't have any leverage in this situation and how the costs won't be that significant with respect to russia. that's just not true. you can stand apart politically, and putin has stood apart dee faintly in a political matter, but you can't separate your economy from the globalized economy. >> tom donilon, thanks for coming in. the president's former national security advisor. >>> coming up, hillary clinton making a comparison between vladimir pu